Firemen, Bourbon, and Bathhouses - Katherine Russell Rich

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Firemen, Bourbon, and Bathhouses

A literary woman sparks a romance with a New York City fireman, Jim Bean's great-grandson describes growing up under the watchful eye of his famous Kentucky bourbon family, and a father and son battle liberal guilt in a sauna.

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12:08
What Goes Up

by Katherine Russell Rich

A writer's uptown friends won't believe her dating adventure with a New York City fire fighter.

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15:18
Booker and Me

by Fred Noe

Jim Beam's great-grandson describes growing up under the watchful eye of his famous Kentucky bourbon family. 

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14:19
The Pieties of Perspiration

by Adam Gopnik

A father and son battle liberal guilt in a sauna.

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Katherine Russell Rich was an accomplished author with two nonfiction books:Dreaming in Hindi and The Red Devil: To Hell with Cancer – and Back. They can both be purchased on Amazon.

After a two-decade long battle with cancer, Kathy Russell Rich died in 2012. One of her close friends, Judy Stone, wrote a piece in remembrance of her on The Moth Blog, which you can read here.


Right before she died, she recorded a segment on ###em/em### about living with cancer. Listen here.

Fred Noe

Jim Bean’s great-grandson describes growing up under the watchful eye of his famous Kentucky bourbon family.
Cook like the great bourbon families of Kentucky with Booker Noe’s famous ham recipe:
o  Scrub the ham. Soak in water.
o  Place in a large roasting pan filled with water and place in the oven at 220 degrees until it reaches an internal temperature of 160 degrees, about 14 hours.
o  Let cool overnight in the pan juices.
o  Remove skin and bones.
o  Make a thick paste of brown sugar and water and coat the ham.
o  Bake at 220 degrees until the sugar caramelizes, about 1 1/2 hours
o  Let cool. Slice paper thin.

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Booker and Fred. Photo courtesy of Fred Noe.

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Adam and Luke today.

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Adam and his grandfather. All photos courtesy of Adam Gopnik.

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